tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post152207772047870619..comments2023-10-05T10:29:39.439+01:00Comments on Catholic Collar And Tie: One Answer Fits All?Andrewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09049074568745678686noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post-69275814295270600202017-06-05T20:17:19.353+01:002017-06-05T20:17:19.353+01:00Thanks Chris.
Strangers are not to be questioned, ...Thanks Chris.<br />Strangers are not to be questioned, you are right. I don’t know all the faces I give Holy Communion to, but that is just life.<br />We only have primacy of conscience when it is formed; when it comes to decisions contrary to the faith is in error and is to be corrected, as the catechism requires (#1792/3). You are in a difficult situation professionally, but the law of God must come first as it alone can save the soul; we cannot lose a soul for eternity to save the mind/body for a time. If there are situations that because of your faith you ought not to be involved in as a nurse, simply make it clear that you are unable to be involved due to religious beliefs. (That said, I think 'sectioning' does not contravene free will when it is for health needs and is a temporary measure not used to wrongly restrain an otherwise healthy individual).This is something I would like to discuss further because I don’t know in what way you would have to contravene the free will of man (short of sectioning under 2-5 of the 1983/2007 Mental Health Act). You can email me if you feel it would be a useful discussion. The email can be found on my profile page.<br />God Bless<br />Fr Dicksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11702725497183621855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post-26313559208697174842017-06-05T16:01:01.426+01:002017-06-05T16:01:01.426+01:00My point is if a stranger arrives at church and co...My point is if a stranger arrives at church and comes to communion, you do not know their situation and are in no position to refuse.<br /><br />We also do have a primacy of conscience, it may disbar us from the faith, but in all conscience if I believe something after prayer and advice that is contrary to the magiesterium then I am willing to answer to God.<br /><br />As a mental health nurse I have to act within the mental health and mental capacity acts, both of which ask me to contravene the free will given to man at creation by God. This does not sit well with my diaconal training as I try to be servus servorum dei, but both all of my vocations make me who I am before God, a husband, a father, a nurse and a trainee permanent deacon<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09702818723386019249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post-6769469911253277852017-06-05T08:59:30.467+01:002017-06-05T08:59:30.467+01:00Thanks for commenting Chris; you highlight some im...Thanks for commenting Chris; you highlight some important issues.<br /><br />You are right; Church teaching has not changed on marriage, contraception, abortion, homosexual acts etc, because it cannot. It is part of Tradition, and Tradition, along with scripture, is a vehicle of Divine Revelation (Dei Verbum, #9) which we are unable to change: “Sacred Tradition takes the word of God entrusted by Christ the Lord and the Holy Spirit to the Apostles, and hands it on to their successors in its full purity” (Dei Verbum #9).<br /><br />You are also right that only God can judge persons, but man must judge acts and situations as helpful or unhelpful to another’s salvation: “Stop judging by appearances, but judge with righteous judgement!" (Jn.7v24); “if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently” (Gal.6v1); “Consider this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and cover over a multitude of sins” (Jas.5v20). It is this judging of right and wrong actions that Francis failed to do.<br />You say you ‘cannot recall Jesus ever not showing love, or pastoral sensitivity as it is called today’, But Christ’s command to love included the desire to save a person’s soul and seek to restore him or her to right living, and as such an exhortation is Christ's final word to the woman caught in adultery "Go now and leave your life of sin." (Jn.8v11), while the man healed at the pool of Bethesda was given a stern warning (Jn.5v13): “Stop sinning, or something worse may happen to you.” I suppose to threaten someone with “something worse” would be regarded as very unpastoral and unloving in today’s Church, wouldn’t you? Yet Our Lord said it, and the Holy Ghost inspired its inclusion in scripture. <br />There is no primacy of conscience in Tradition; it is a distortion of the 1960’s. Correct teaching is that “We must…examine our conscience before the Lord's Cross. We are assisted by the gifts of the Holy Spirit, aided by the witness or advice of others and guided by the authoritative teaching of the Church (Catechism, #1785). Indeed, "Conscience can remain in ignorance or make erroneous judgements. Such ignorance and errors are not always free of guilt" (Catechism, #1801), Indeed, “the assertion of a mistaken notion of autonomy of conscience, rejection of the Church's authority and her teaching, lack of conversion and of charity: these can be at the source of errors of judgement in moral conduct. If the ignorance is invincible, or the moral subject is not responsible for his erroneous judgement, the evil committed by the person cannot be imputed to him. It remains no less an evil, a privation, a disorder. One must therefore work to correct the errors of moral conscience.” (Catechism #1792/3). So where a conscience is in error it is to be corrected, not left in error.<br />We are not at all obliged to communicate anyone who arrives at our altars “in bona fide”: the Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts tells us that “the reception of the body of Christ when one is publicly unworthy constitutes an objective harm to the ecclesial communion: it is a behaviour that affects the rights of the Church and of all the faithful to live in accord with the exigencies of that communion” (June 24, 2000). <br />God Bless Chris.Fr Dicksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11702725497183621855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post-47394269687698782742017-06-04T20:28:03.488+01:002017-06-04T20:28:03.488+01:00As far as I am aware church teaching has not chang...As far as I am aware church teaching has not changed regarding marriage, contraception or homosexuality and Francis has not sought to change any of this teaching. <br /><br />As for his statement "who am I to judge" then he is right, only God can judge.<br /><br />We must also remember Jesus' command to love, I cannot recall Jesus ever not showing love, or pastoral sensitivity as it is called today.<br /><br />We also must remember the primacy of conscience, and anyone who arrives at our altars must be treated "in bona fide" and the matter is between them and God<br /><br />Yours in ChristAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09702818723386019249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post-65360374223294466262017-06-03T16:15:03.052+01:002017-06-03T16:15:03.052+01:00Thanks S.A.
I know that some people are just too l...Thanks S.A.<br />I know that some people are just too lonely without a partner, so we need to make them feel welcome at Holy Mass and parish socials, but without giving them Holy Communion. Some peole have a sucesion of partners. One of the things that alwasus bugged me when i was arranging funerals wwas foklk saying "S/he was devoted to his/her family". I couldn't but think, "Which one? the one before you didn't think s/he was devoted to them; and the one after you may leave you feeling the same way". Obviously one couldn't day it, but it made some funerals awkward to arrange well when children from two (three or more) marriages were all wanting to have input to their dad's/mum's funeral. <br />God Bless.Fr Dicksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11702725497183621855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post-45615556108750387452017-06-03T11:37:01.536+01:002017-06-03T11:37:01.536+01:00Father this is all so true. Whilst I don't wan...Father this is all so true. Whilst I don't want to sound uncharitable if receiving Holy Communion is so important to these lost folk then why take part in acts that are contradictory to the faith. We have a choice, do we love God or do we love ourself, do we want to make God pleased or ourself. We can only pray for them God BlessSallyAnnenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post-33240668864473175762017-06-03T09:20:02.117+01:002017-06-03T09:20:02.117+01:00Thank you David.
There are situations similar to t...Thank you David.<br />There are situations similar to those you mention in many parishes, I suspect.<br />God Bless.Fr Dicksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11702725497183621855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post-79353094550211573272017-06-03T09:18:48.729+01:002017-06-03T09:18:48.729+01:00Thank you, R.C.
by 'leaving doctrine in place&...Thank you, R.C.<br />by 'leaving doctrine in place' I mean there has been no formal declaration or attempt to declare what anything contrary to the Deposit of Faith as we have it down the centuries. I think that contradicting via pastoral practice is not an issue: what is happening is that the ground is being prepraed for new doctriens to emerge in the future from today's contradictory practice; the unfaithful are getting changes for the future prepared for by the pastoral practice of today. I might add this to the post, thank you.<br />The calling of Francis a 'formal heretic' can only be done if he formally tries to impose teaching that contradicts the Deposit of Faith. <br />God BlessFr Dicksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11702725497183621855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post-5921104491532237482017-06-03T02:50:22.034+01:002017-06-03T02:50:22.034+01:00Contradicting doctrine via pastoral practice is no...Contradicting doctrine via pastoral practice is not leaving doctrine in place. Cardinal Muller said that is a subtle Chritological heresy.<br /><br />And what conditions are needed before you consider Francis a formal heretic?Remnant Clergyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01964611664502948690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post-24897453706031977062017-06-02T18:37:43.913+01:002017-06-02T18:37:43.913+01:00Sadly Father what you say is only too true. I know...Sadly Father what you say is only too true. I know of a couple living together outside of marriage who feel that the reception of Holy Communion will lead them to a better life. How can a better life be achieved if they continue to worsen their spiritual life not only by living in sin but compounding that sin by receiving Holy Communion knowing they are living a life of sin? The hardest part is that they consider themselves 'good Catholics' & present themselves as such. David O'Neillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04023042558615821880noreply@blogger.com