tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post8476593052925760448..comments2023-10-05T10:29:39.439+01:00Comments on Catholic Collar And Tie: Fruits of the Council and the Reform of the ReformAndrewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09049074568745678686noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post-72178806139364309472013-04-18T11:54:30.921+01:002013-04-18T11:54:30.921+01:00Thanks for the comment, David.
There may be some ...Thanks for the comment, David.<br /><br />There may be some problems with the Council documents (some periti acknowledged they had written things that could be manipulated after the Council) the problem really is the implementation in that ambiguities in the text can only be authentically read in line with Traditional teaching.<br /><br />I think the popes have tried to tie the Council down without resorting to a new Syllabus of Errors style document, in that JP II gave us the Catechism and Benedict gave us the compendium. Sadly, where the ambiguous texts are simply repeated the problem remains, so a 'Syllabus' might be the way forward. Bishop Schneider called for such a document. I think it is impossible to place people in a box of traditional or Modern since most today are a mix of both, so whoever is Pope, we have to remember that ultimately the Lord is in charge and will bring about His desired end. Fr Dicksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11702725497183621855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post-40719866188863655062013-04-17T22:26:32.423+01:002013-04-17T22:26:32.423+01:00Hi Fr Gary
Whilst I agree totally with your readin...Hi Fr Gary<br />Whilst I agree totally with your reading that Vatican II is not the problem but that the implementation & misreading of it is, I can't see how we are expected to reverse the situation easily. You point out the lapsation rate - quite rightly - but this has all happened since Vat2. Cause & effect seem to be the words to use. Not the cause & effect of Vat2 but the cause & effect of those who, probably deliberately & with a hidden agenda, led us down that path. The only sensible way forward (& it will be difficult if not impossible) is for the Pope to come out & demonstrate these falsehoods & to MAKE us return to the Truth. But will he? I am sceptical that Pope Francis will just go on as before Benedict XVI. He has (for me) demonstrated that rather than being traditional he too is a modernist. I pray that I might be proven wrong.David O'Neillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04023042558615821880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post-12037353448969488792013-04-17T11:56:01.925+01:002013-04-17T11:56:01.925+01:00Thanks for your comment.
Indeed the Church is the ...Thanks for your comment.<br />Indeed the Church is the people, and that is all of us, from the Pope down to the most newly baptised infant. I think the answer is in us; that we should all strive to love and live what has been revealed, with our daily living reflected in solid devotional lives and the conviction of Faith. Sadly some do seem to think that the tried and tested devotions of yesteryear are simply passing fashions. Oh that we would value our past as the collector values the antique -which only grows more valuable with the passage of time...Fr Dicksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11702725497183621855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post-62814775954180982092013-04-17T10:02:02.844+01:002013-04-17T10:02:02.844+01:00Many good points FR we have indeed lost our way so...Many good points FR we have indeed lost our way somewhere and whilst you point to many things that need urgent attention just where do the answers lie? Ultimately the Church is the people, and however steep a mountain has to be climbed they are the ones who have the ultimate remedy for all our ills... the power of Prayer. We need a restoration of true devotion through prayer many devotions that are deemed by some as old fashioned. Prayer and devotions always move the compassionate heart of God to His Church a heart that is also truly responsive to the intersession of Our Blessed Lady. Keep going collar the Lord is on your side Prayers assured.. teeshirtteeshirthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01079369724397129363noreply@blogger.com