tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post2895775099394788514..comments2023-10-05T10:29:39.439+01:00Comments on Catholic Collar And Tie: What the Traditional Mass Did With MeAndrewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09049074568745678686noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post-75022415227543869172013-06-25T06:59:52.268+01:002013-06-25T06:59:52.268+01:00Thanks for your comment.
Yes, I'm sure that fo...Thanks for your comment.<br />Yes, I'm sure that for many laity who prefer the TLM attending NO Masses can be a trial -it misses so many ancient prayers and as such can seem 'empty'. It only adds to the difficulty when the NO is celebrated badly. But priests are not always at liberty to celebrate the TLM -the readiness of the people in the parish and the openness of our fellow clergy are factors to be considered as to when and how it can be introduced to a parish. We do though, have the benefit of being able to celebrate the NO without deviations from the text and ad orientem. Fr Dicksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11702725497183621855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post-41940916509082395842013-06-25T01:02:14.495+01:002013-06-25T01:02:14.495+01:00Father,
You said: "I think celebrating the T...Father,<br /><br />You said: "I think celebrating the Traditional Mass brings a kind of mini-martyrdom to priests who celebrate it today -don't you?"<br /><br />From the point of view of a layman I think that having to attend the NOM when there is no TLM available is a kind of mini-martyrdom to laypeople who attend it. Priests are fortunate in that they can celebrate the Mass of their choice: lay people just have to sit in the pews and suffer what is put in front of them. <br /><br />I think it best if I remain anonymous on this one. A Martyrnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post-77418308851354284012013-06-24T14:59:55.692+01:002013-06-24T14:59:55.692+01:00Thanks for your comment, Patrick.
I'm glad you...Thanks for your comment, Patrick.<br />I'm glad you can attend the TLM on Sundays. <br />I know a number of people who read their TLM missal while at a NO. I understand that, but I encourage them to read the TLM Mass through before the NO begins, as a sort of prepartion for Mass, so that they are fully involved with the NO liturgy at which they are present. To allow for this it seems to me that the celebrant ought to conform to the NO rubrics because if he deviates from them and ad libs texts etc., it can disrupt the attention of those who are struggling to do their best at the NO. God bless you for doing your best, Patrick.Fr Dicksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11702725497183621855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post-53995335380996432232013-06-24T12:02:47.085+01:002013-06-24T12:02:47.085+01:00I attend Mass of all the ages every Sunday albeit ...I attend Mass of all the ages every Sunday albeit with a bit of travelling involved however during the week I go to my own parish where only Novus Ordo is available. When attending Mass in my own parish I use my 1962 missal and say Mass as best I can using my missal in conjunction with the N.O. Mass. I feel awkward but the spiritual benefit i gain makes up for any feelings of discomfort on my partAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09293882573347648902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post-42690725920349523872013-06-24T11:39:50.910+01:002013-06-24T11:39:50.910+01:00Thanks for the comment.
The ordinary Form does h...Thanks for the comment. <br /><br />The ordinary Form does have rubrics though, and I think if these were followed there would not be so much variation around the place. Even so, it does not hold for me the same demands as does the EF -or for the congregation, who must learn to pray in silence rather than be led by the hand via constant dialogue. That said, I do feel the 'Dialogue Mass' has a real place in celebrations of the EF, especially for the prayers at the foot of the altar and the dialogue before the preface. I know this is not to everyone's taste. Similarly, I think the silent canon should be required in both the OF and EF forms of the Mass.Fr Dicksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11702725497183621855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post-34968601768007904312013-06-24T09:32:30.390+01:002013-06-24T09:32:30.390+01:00Just back from holiday (again) so please forgive t...Just back from holiday (again) so please forgive the delay. I totally agree with you Father but not only does the priest gain from the EF but (just as importantly) so does the congregation. In the OF (I find) I watch for slight changes which occur because of the different variations & whilst on holiday abroad these slight alterations can completely 'throw' visitors when trying to follow the Mass. I recall shortly after Vatican II a senior diocesan cleric calling such arguments "The Cook's Tour Syndrome" & yet even moreso now that we travel more it becomes more important to have a Mass which is recognisable throughout the world & thus proclaims the universality of our Faith.David O'Neillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04023042558615821880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post-86348276459539598212013-06-22T19:35:49.295+01:002013-06-22T19:35:49.295+01:00Thank you for your comment.
You are indeed fortun...Thank you for your comment. <br />You are indeed fortunate to have such a parish. <br />As for an inspiring blog, I would much rather be an inspiring priest by fully assimilating the virtues I note in the last line of the post. Thank you, though, since if we waited for the perfect man before we had preachers, the Gospel would never have been preached post-Ascension...Fr Dicksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11702725497183621855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post-47047066958636577562013-06-22T19:22:08.348+01:002013-06-22T19:22:08.348+01:00Thank you father for the post! I am fortunate here...Thank you father for the post! I am fortunate here in California to have access to a FSSP parish with three young and very dedicated and inspiring priests. And I'm inspired by your blog--thank you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post-62484670332506047162013-06-21T22:26:05.144+01:002013-06-21T22:26:05.144+01:00Thanks, Father.
I think celebrating the Tradition...Thanks, Father.<br /><br />I think celebrating the Traditional Mass brings a kind of mini-martyrdom to priests who celebrate it today -don't you?Fr Dicksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11702725497183621855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post-43099429932814080882013-06-21T20:53:59.561+01:002013-06-21T20:53:59.561+01:00wonderful post! Very inspiring and reminded me why...wonderful post! Very inspiring and reminded me why I go to the trouble of celebrating la Messe du toujours despite the opprobrium it brings.Fr Michael Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15320336535138538635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post-37362462959118526952013-06-21T16:45:48.797+01:002013-06-21T16:45:48.797+01:00Thanks for your comment, Joseph. Please say a pray...Thanks for your comment, Joseph. Please say a prayer that I achieve my goals!Fr Dicksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11702725497183621855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641832955811669058.post-67274153014339226552013-06-21T15:46:41.252+01:002013-06-21T15:46:41.252+01:00Absolutely gorgeous post.
Thank you for your wond...Absolutely gorgeous post. <br />Thank you for your wonderful reflection.<br />JosephAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com